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		<title>Comment on The Middle Way by GlirtyZincict</title>
		<link>http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/hello-world/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>GlirtyZincict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stunning, I did not know about that up to now. Cheers!!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome by Hugo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kaz, thanks for your feedback! I will reread your post. I have enjoyed your well-written posts in the past and do not recognise the meagreness of your blog.
 I&#039;ll get back you, thanks!
 Hugo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kaz, thanks for your feedback! I will reread your post. I have enjoyed your well-written posts in the past and do not recognise the meagreness of your blog.<br />
 I&#8217;ll get back you, thanks!<br />
 Hugo</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome by Kaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Hugo,

Thanks for your comment on my own meager blog.  Yes, of course I understand that kidney pathologies due to sexual activity is a real thing.  But I think the neurosis of which I speak is not in proportion to the actual incidence of the pathology.

Your blog is very interesting!  I am looking forward to reading more of it over time.

Best,

Kaz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Hugo,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment on my own meager blog.  Yes, of course I understand that kidney pathologies due to sexual activity is a real thing.  But I think the neurosis of which I speak is not in proportion to the actual incidence of the pathology.</p>
<p>Your blog is very interesting!  I am looking forward to reading more of it over time.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Kaz</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scientific Authority by Review lesson &#171; Middle Medicine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Review lesson &#171; Middle Medicine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Scientific Authority by Review lesson &#171; Middle Medicine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Review lesson &#171; Middle Medicine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Scientific Authority Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)WHO endorses Traditional Medicines [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Articles by qadir</title>
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		<dc:creator>qadir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>any article about acupuncture</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>any article about acupuncture</p>
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		<title>Comment on Study: Herb comparable to Prednisone by Al Stone</title>
		<link>http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com/research/study-herb-comparable-to-prednisone/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This herb, &quot;TWHF&quot; is commonly used just like prednisone in China in the treatment of lupus. I was so impressed by this herb as described in a book on the CM/WM treatment of lupus that I attempted to purchase it. However nobody in the US carries it because it is so ridiculously dangerous. That should be presented in the research too. Never mind the fact that it is a single extract being used, let&#039;s see how we can use it without generating iatrogenic problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This herb, &#8220;TWHF&#8221; is commonly used just like prednisone in China in the treatment of lupus. I was so impressed by this herb as described in a book on the CM/WM treatment of lupus that I attempted to purchase it. However nobody in the US carries it because it is so ridiculously dangerous. That should be presented in the research too. Never mind the fact that it is a single extract being used, let&#8217;s see how we can use it without generating iatrogenic problems.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Top killers in U.S. by Lee Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Gary Null is tangential to my points
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Except that you devote a little over half of your article to repeating his assertions.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
So it‚Äôs actually not him, if you follow me
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, it is him, as he routinely misrepresents sources and makes things up.
He&#039;s not able to understand the scientific literature but cites it as a smokescreen.


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I suggest that you obtain a copy of the first reference listed (Lazarou, Pomeranz et al) and give it a really thorough read.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I found it, although you cited it incorrectly. After reading it I can only conclude that you don&#039;t understand it very well and/or that you are adopting Null&#039;s tactics and simply citing a bunch of articles in order to make people believe that your pre-formed opinions have some kind of scientific backing. 

According to the very article you cite, your chart is wrong (and not very useful, as it contains no numbers).
The article does expose adverse drug reactions (in patients in 1994!) as a &quot;serious clinical issue&quot;. Do you think that clinical practice might have evolved a little since then? Maybe as a result of the self-criticism by &quot;conventional medicine&quot; practitioners of which this article is a fine example? Try to absorb this point: this very self-correction, based on science, is what distinguishes &quot;conventional&quot; medicine from &quot;alternative&quot; medicine, and is why the former works and the latter, for the most part, is not effective, as it retains its basis in superstition and wishful thinking. Where is the article in which the &quot;alternative&quot; practitioners discuss and quantify the harm done by their own procedures, so that they can improve? 

Finally, what does it mean when a patient dies from an adverse drug reaction, or from any medical intervention? It&#039;s not as if doctors break in to your house and force you to swallow pills. You&#039;re in the hospital being given serious medicine because you&#039;re very sick and might die from your condition if the doctors don&#039;t do something. Adding up all the people who die as a result of an attempt to help them and treating this number as &quot;death from conventional medicine&quot;, and then comparing the number with deaths from heart disease, etc., really makes no sense, unless you (1) subtract lives saved from the number of deaths; (2) exclude people who would have died anyway; (3) learn something about statistics, etc. If that&#039;s not clear, here is an example: suppose you wind up in the hospital, unconscious and with some kind of infection that&#039;s about to kill you. The doctors have to do something, so they give you a powerful antibiotic that you happen to be allergic to; you die from the allergic reaction. In what column do you put the &quot;cause of death&quot;? Did you die from the infection? From whatever you did or whatever other disease you had that led to the infection? From your failure to wear a medical alert necklace listing what you were allergic to? Did &quot;conventional medicine&quot; kill you because they took the course that was most likely to save you, and it failed? Should they have brought in an acupuncturist?</description>
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Gary Null is tangential to my points
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<p>Except that you devote a little over half of your article to repeating his assertions.</p>
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So it‚Äôs actually not him, if you follow me
</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, it is him, as he routinely misrepresents sources and makes things up.<br />
He&#8217;s not able to understand the scientific literature but cites it as a smokescreen.</p>
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I suggest that you obtain a copy of the first reference listed (Lazarou, Pomeranz et al) and give it a really thorough read.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I found it, although you cited it incorrectly. After reading it I can only conclude that you don&#8217;t understand it very well and/or that you are adopting Null&#8217;s tactics and simply citing a bunch of articles in order to make people believe that your pre-formed opinions have some kind of scientific backing. </p>
<p>According to the very article you cite, your chart is wrong (and not very useful, as it contains no numbers).<br />
The article does expose adverse drug reactions (in patients in 1994!) as a &#8220;serious clinical issue&#8221;. Do you think that clinical practice might have evolved a little since then? Maybe as a result of the self-criticism by &#8220;conventional medicine&#8221; practitioners of which this article is a fine example? Try to absorb this point: this very self-correction, based on science, is what distinguishes &#8220;conventional&#8221; medicine from &#8220;alternative&#8221; medicine, and is why the former works and the latter, for the most part, is not effective, as it retains its basis in superstition and wishful thinking. Where is the article in which the &#8220;alternative&#8221; practitioners discuss and quantify the harm done by their own procedures, so that they can improve? </p>
<p>Finally, what does it mean when a patient dies from an adverse drug reaction, or from any medical intervention? It&#8217;s not as if doctors break in to your house and force you to swallow pills. You&#8217;re in the hospital being given serious medicine because you&#8217;re very sick and might die from your condition if the doctors don&#8217;t do something. Adding up all the people who die as a result of an attempt to help them and treating this number as &#8220;death from conventional medicine&#8221;, and then comparing the number with deaths from heart disease, etc., really makes no sense, unless you (1) subtract lives saved from the number of deaths; (2) exclude people who would have died anyway; (3) learn something about statistics, etc. If that&#8217;s not clear, here is an example: suppose you wind up in the hospital, unconscious and with some kind of infection that&#8217;s about to kill you. The doctors have to do something, so they give you a powerful antibiotic that you happen to be allergic to; you die from the allergic reaction. In what column do you put the &#8220;cause of death&#8221;? Did you die from the infection? From whatever you did or whatever other disease you had that led to the infection? From your failure to wear a medical alert necklace listing what you were allergic to? Did &#8220;conventional medicine&#8221; kill you because they took the course that was most likely to save you, and it failed? Should they have brought in an acupuncturist?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Acupuncture reduces side effects of breast cancer treatment as much as conventional drug therapy by cmtherapies</title>
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		<dc:creator>cmtherapies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Alon, I think I understand what you mean.
 I often don&#039;t know what to do with positive studies - my first inclination is to ignore them. However, the bad press that does come out against CM or acupuncture seems so powerful that I also feel justified in supporting the other side. It is political grandstanding.
 My fundamental opinion on studies is that they are useful to bring a type of illumination to the arena, but that it is incorrect to place them ahead of clinical knowledge, as is done in EBM.
 For example, I cannot equate findings on acupuncture and back pain with my own clinical experience. 
 Ioannidis (&quot;Why most published research findings are false&quot;) did important work on describing how studies can come out positive or negative, just based on chance alone. I.e. 1/20 studies are likely to be right, but not because their data or methodology are right, but rather just due to chance.
 My personal experience leads me to believe that negative studies on acupuncture are very misleading, and I must write in accordance with my observations.
 Thanks for writing in, Alon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Alon, I think I understand what you mean.<br />
 I often don&#8217;t know what to do with positive studies &#8211; my first inclination is to ignore them. However, the bad press that does come out against CM or acupuncture seems so powerful that I also feel justified in supporting the other side. It is political grandstanding.<br />
 My fundamental opinion on studies is that they are useful to bring a type of illumination to the arena, but that it is incorrect to place them ahead of clinical knowledge, as is done in EBM.<br />
 For example, I cannot equate findings on acupuncture and back pain with my own clinical experience.<br />
 Ioannidis (&#8220;Why most published research findings are false&#8221;) did important work on describing how studies can come out positive or negative, just based on chance alone. I.e. 1/20 studies are likely to be right, but not because their data or methodology are right, but rather just due to chance.<br />
 My personal experience leads me to believe that negative studies on acupuncture are very misleading, and I must write in accordance with my observations.<br />
 Thanks for writing in, Alon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Acupuncture reduces side effects of breast cancer treatment as much as conventional drug therapy by alon marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>alon marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugo
I find it interesting that you dont go on the soap box when the study is positive
alon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugo<br />
I find it interesting that you dont go on the soap box when the study is positive<br />
alon</p>
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